Hola majo!!! Lo que si es una pasada que al ser mismo panel pones Netflix en hdr10 y dolby....y Joder se nota diferencia a la legua a favor del dolby....pero luego en SDR la Sony es mucho más limpia de ruido amigoYeeee que no había visto tu unboxing por culpa de tener en ignorados al autor de este hilo, y por esa razón el hilo me es invisible. Lo he visto por casualidad al entrar sin iniciar sesión.
Para mi la mejor OLED del momento, si señor!!
Lo del movimiento y el ruido digital en Netflix ya lo había leído en avsforum. Me alegro que todo vaya bien y que sea una gran tele
Steve Yedlin dijo:LG B7 OLED SETTINGS
Oct 30, 2017
These settings are not guaranteed to work on other devices or on the same device after burn time. This is for informational purposes only -- you should use a spectrometer and
a test pattern rather than copying my settings if you really want a calibrated TV.
Manufacturing tolerances and day-to-day drift are non-negligible. These settings are different even than when I calibrated the same monitor less than 10 hours of burn-time earlier.
These settings, for the moment, hit spec for ITU-R BT 1886 very well.
Pretty much to color grading reference monitor precision.
Black measures out at full zero (the spectrometer bottoms out).
And I've chosen a white target near 150 cd/m^2 instead of the usual 100
because the room is not totally dark.
The Electro-Optical Transfer Function measures very tight to spec all through the range, even just above black where many monitors go way off.
The color primaries hit their x,y targets very well (mostly well within .01)
Here are the settings:
Picture Mode Setting: Expert (Dark Room)
OLED 35
Contrast 100
Brightness 55
H Sharpness 0
V Sharpness 0
Color 40
Tint 0
Expert Controls:
Dynamic Contrast Off
Super Resolution Off
Color Gamut Extended
Edge Enhancer Off
Color Filter Off
Gamma BT1886
White Balance:
Color Temp Warm2
Method 2 Points
Pattern Outer
Point Low
Red -9
Green -3
Blue 0
Picture Options:
Noise Reduction Off
MPEG Noise Reduction Off
Black Level Low
Real Cinema Off
Motion Eye Care Off
TruMotion Off
Color Management System:
All zeroes
Energy Saver Off
Eye Comfort Mode Off
These settings are not guaranteed to work on other devices or on the same device after burn time. This is for informational purposes only -- you should use a spectrometer and
a test pattern rather than copying my settings if you really want a calibrated TV.
Pretty much to color grading reference monitor precision.
MicroOled NO EXISTE.
Existe MicroLED, pereo es HUMO a día de hoy.
Revise sus fuentes.
Hola majo!!! Lo que si es una pasada que al ser mismo panel pones Netflix en hdr10 y dolby....y Joder se nota diferencia a la legua a favor del dolby....pero luego en SDR la Sony es mucho más limpia de ruido amigoYeeee que no había visto tu unboxing por culpa de tener en ignorados al autor de este hilo, y por esa razón el hilo me es invisible. Lo he visto por casualidad al entrar sin iniciar sesión.
Para mi la mejor OLED del momento, si señor!!
Lo del movimiento y el ruido digital en Netflix ya lo había leído en avsforum. Me alegro que todo vaya bien y que sea una gran tele
Arreglarán eso del brilló Ronda o depende de la tele?? (Me refiero a lo de fast to Furious o power ranger)
A modo de curiosidad:
Steve Yedlin dijo:LG B7 OLED SETTINGS
Oct 30, 2017
These settings are not guaranteed to work on other devices or on the same device after burn time. This is for informational purposes only -- you should use a spectrometer and
a test pattern rather than copying my settings if you really want a calibrated TV.
Manufacturing tolerances and day-to-day drift are non-negligible. These settings are different even than when I calibrated the same monitor less than 10 hours of burn-time earlier.
These settings, for the moment, hit spec for ITU-R BT 1886 very well.
Pretty much to color grading reference monitor precision.
Black measures out at full zero (the spectrometer bottoms out).
And I've chosen a white target near 150 cd/m^2 instead of the usual 100
because the room is not totally dark.
The Electro-Optical Transfer Function measures very tight to spec all through the range, even just above black where many monitors go way off.
The color primaries hit their x,y targets very well (mostly well within .01)
Here are the settings:
Picture Mode Setting: Expert (Dark Room)
OLED 35
Contrast 100
Brightness 55
H Sharpness 0
V Sharpness 0
Color 40
Tint 0
Expert Controls:
Dynamic Contrast Off
Super Resolution Off
Color Gamut Extended
Edge Enhancer Off
Color Filter Off
Gamma BT1886
White Balance:
Color Temp Warm2
Method 2 Points
Pattern Outer
Point Low
Red -9
Green -3
Blue 0
Picture Options:
Noise Reduction Off
MPEG Noise Reduction Off
Black Level Low
Real Cinema Off
Motion Eye Care Off
TruMotion Off
Color Management System:
All zeroes
Energy Saver Off
Eye Comfort Mode Off
OLED Settings
Hi, Contrast/Brightness settings in HDR are not working like we know in SDR, Brightness should left untouched, because the display gamut/tone mapping is based to these default settings.
HDR is using ST.2084 which is an absolute curve, the display has to follow specific luminance levels per digital level, according to the Dolby's golden reference numbers, so you are following to up to the luminance levels the display is capable and you clipp or roll-off (hard/soft)...(it's up to each displayinternal gamut/tone mapping programming)...the higher from display's peak output levels the display can't follow.
So when you have a 650nits capable display you see about up to 70.5% of the signal, the other info will be clipped or roll-off (hard/soft), it's up to each displayinternal gamut/tone mapping programming.
Other examples:
75.2% is 1000 nits
90.2% is 4014 nits
97.7% is 8047 nits
100% is 10000 nits
The PQ curve charts have different curve shape from the familiar ones of SDR calibration because 100% is 10.000 nits.
If you reduce Contrast/OLED from LG, you will reduce the peak output, OLED/Contrast @ 100 provides better color tracking at these default values.
In SDR we use Gamma curve as transfer function (where you can set it to 2.2/2.4/BT1886 or whatever value you like....having in calculation the displayBlack/Peak White level to generate each digital level luminance levels, but in HDR the PQ Curve transfer function has fixed numbers from 0-10.000nits, you follow or you clip, you can't modify or use other values.
Ignore CMS adjustments and do RGB Balance adjustments only.
Each of the White Balance control in HDR has a specific +- value working range which not introduce problems to real content. The range of values are different from point-to-point. At low end controls the adjustments has to be very minimal. Play some different content and play with each control until you find up to which values you don't see problems. Use different movies/scenes to have plenty of different palettes to evaluate.
Using LG instructions for HDR calibration it will increase your color errors and provide lower peak output but better Grayscale and gamma tracking, but the color errors are more important from grayscale errors in that case.
After some testing performed using a 65E6 @ HDR mode, lowering the OLEDLight, can improve the Grayscale but increase the color errors. To compare what is happening you have to take 5-Point Saturations (or 10-Point)
If you keep the Contrast/OLED @ 100, and calibrated the RGB levels for HDR, then you get an average Grayscale of about 1.6dE2000 and the errors are coming from gamma (brigher) at mid range while the RGB balance is near perfect....you get about 670nits calibrated.
If you run a 5-Point Saturation with targets DCI P3 inside a REC2020 (look CalMAN HDR workflow) then you get about ~2.0dE2000 average.
If you keep the Contrast @ 100 and reduce OLED about 80? (I don't remember the exact value...to get 540nits) and calibrated the RGB levels for HDR, then you get an average Grayscale of about ~1.0dE2000 (or lower)and the errors of gamma are reduced at mid range while the RGB balance is near perfect....you get about 540nits calibrated.
If you run a 5-Point Saturation with targets DCI P3 inside a REC2020 (look CalMAN HDR workflow) then you get about ~4.0dE2000 average
Buena teoria, nunca me acostaré sin saber una cosa mas jajajaj, tiene sentido , cuando venga el firm de dolby en la sony podré ver si se cumple!!! un abrazooArreglarán eso del brilló Ronda o depende de la tele?? (Me refiero a lo de fast to Furious o power ranger)
Pues yo estoy casi seguro de que es culpa de LG, no de Dolby, de hecho, donde yo más he notado este problemilla ha sido en Strangers Things de Netflix.
Mi idea del problema es la siguiente como ya comenté en otro hilo: Las Oled tienen 0 negro, pero a costa de sacrificar algo de detalle en sombra, y cuando los metadatos dinámicos le indican a la pantalla la información a mostrar, si es en escenas muy oscuras y la información a mostrar los primeros niveles de gris o color, la OLED solo lo puede resolver empujando el brillo por encima del negro, de ahí que a veces puntualmente veamos en algún momento los negros levantados. Con el color lo mismo si se trata de mostrar los colores más oscuros cerca de negro, si los metadatos indican que muestre por ejemplo un azul muy oscuro próximo al negro, la tele para enseñarlo ha de levantar ligeramente el brillo de la misma manera que lo haría si lo hiciéramos nosotros mismos manualmente mediante un patrón específico.
En las OLED 2017 es menos acusado pero creo que también hay algo de esto. Por eso creo que es un tema de LG, y no de los discos UHD ya que yo además lo he notado en iTunes y en Netflix viendo cosas en Dolby