Jo, veo que en ECI ya tienen Blade Runner, It e Interestelar en UHD.... pero no entran en el descuento progresivo. ¿Qué clase de mierda es esta?
Geoff D dijo:Okay, so I sat down with both versions cued up on two players (OPPO and the Sony X800) going into my ZD9, each HDMI input set to the exact same picture settings and each player presenting as unmolested an output as possible. To my eyes the grading is literally identical. One isn't dimmer, one isn't darker, they're exactly the same in terms of black level, colour, highlights and mid range. This, my friends, is the benefit of a HDR TV that ignores the metadata completely: it takes the content as it comes instead of trying to pigeonhole it according to the size of the container. IMO that is EXACTLY why some folks are saying the Warners version is too dark, the TV's tone mapping is looking at that 10,000-nit mastering container and busting it down to size, regardless of the barely-nudging 500-nit content that's actually inside the container.
Comparison photos below, Sony top and Warners bottom. Do NOT take them as being indicative of what the HDR version actually looks like as these aren't my usual SDR to HDR comparisons, they're simply to show the differences or lack thereof between the two UHDs at any given exposure. (Any tiny colour variances are purely due to the exposure)
Sapper's abode:
The man himself:
Simply Luvleh:
Dem bones:
Wake up...
I did find something that does set them apart though, following on from what Vangeli reported ealier in the thread. Not long into the Sony disc I thought to myself "does that look a touch sharper?", as from that first shot of K's hand in the spinner it just seemed to be that little bit crisper than the Warners version, and this continues throughout the film. It's most definitely NOT some kind of massive life-altering difference but to my eyes it brings into play the talk about this being "reference" for sharpness, I was not wowed by the sharpness of the Warners disc (hence my blah reaction to it upthread) but however slight this Sony improvement is, it seems to make all the difference on my 65" TV. Take the scene of K after he's had his baseline test when he first returns from Sapper's, when we get the wider shot of him facing camera the little holes in his jumper are more distinct on the Sony than on the Warners. It just seems to have more precision, more 'snap' to the detail.
Geoff D dijo:
Mas de lo mismo:
Geoff D dijo:Okay, so I sat down with both versions cued up on two players (OPPO and the Sony X800) going into my ZD9, each HDMI input set to the exact same picture settings and each player presenting as unmolested an output as possible. To my eyes the grading is literally identical. One isn't dimmer, one isn't darker, they're exactly the same in terms of black level, colour, highlights and mid range. This, my friends, is the benefit of a HDR TV that ignores the metadata completely: it takes the content as it comes instead of trying to pigeonhole it according to the size of the container. IMO that is EXACTLY why some folks are saying the Warners version is too dark, the TV's tone mapping is looking at that 10,000-nit mastering container and busting it down to size, regardless of the barely-nudging 500-nit content that's actually inside the container.
Comparison photos below, Sony top and Warners bottom. Do NOT take them as being indicative of what the HDR version actually looks like as these aren't my usual SDR to HDR comparisons, they're simply to show the differences or lack thereof between the two UHDs at any given exposure. (Any tiny colour variances are purely due to the exposure)
Sapper's abode:
The man himself:
Simply Luvleh:
Dem bones:
Wake up...
I did find something that does set them apart though, following on from what Vangeli reported ealier in the thread. Not long into the Sony disc I thought to myself "does that look a touch sharper?", as from that first shot of K's hand in the spinner it just seemed to be that little bit crisper than the Warners version, and this continues throughout the film. It's most definitely NOT some kind of massive life-altering difference but to my eyes it brings into play the talk about this being "reference" for sharpness, I was not wowed by the sharpness of the Warners disc (hence my blah reaction to it upthread) but however slight this Sony improvement is, it seems to make all the difference on my 65" TV. Take the scene of K after he's had his baseline test when he first returns from Sapper's, when we get the wider shot of him facing camera the little holes in his jumper are more distinct on the Sony than on the Warners. It just seems to have more precision, more 'snap' to the detail.
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=14674991&postcount=3417
Y según comenta, para los que tengan un repro X800:
Geoff D dijo:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=14675015&postcount=3045
Que has querido decir conmoo de sentimientos encontrados.
Anoche pude ver “La montaña entre nosotros”, el UHDREMUX de HDC, y en lo que a imagen se refiere me ha producido sentimientos encontrados.
Muchas gracias Señor hooper jaja
Imagino que se habrá agotado, porque no creo que ya la hayan descatalogado.
Efectivamente, algo así quería decir. Hay unos planos, los nevados, de una enorme calidad y con multitud de detalles en los aspectos más destacados de la imagen donde los copos de nieve, relieves y nubes quedan magníficamente representados gracias a un uso del HDR10 excelente. Y algunos primeros planos, en interiores principalmente, que no tanto, donde la imagen carece del impacto en términos de resolución necesario al que estamos ya tan mal acostumbrados en codificaciones de origen nativas 4K, con todo ese extra de detalle fino que vemos en muchos títulos UHD, lo que supone en muchos casos una más que importante actualización respecto al bluray.
No obstante, a “La montaña entre nosotros” le voy a dar una buena puntuación porque la a tualizacion respecto al bluray es notoria juas
Muchas gracias Señor hooper jaja
Imagino que se habrá agotado, porque no creo que ya la hayan descatalogado.
Efectivamente, algo así quería decir. Hay unos planos, los nevados, de una enorme calidad y con multitud de detalles en los aspectos más destacados de la imagen donde los copos de nieve, relieves y nubes quedan magníficamente representados gracias a un uso del HDR10 excelente. Y algunos primeros planos, en interiores principalmente, que no tanto, donde la imagen carece del impacto en términos de resolución necesario al que estamos ya tan mal acostumbrados en codificaciones de origen nativas 4K, con todo ese extra de detalle fino que vemos en muchos títulos UHD, lo que supone en muchos casos una más que importante actualización respecto al bluray.
No obstante, a “La montaña entre nosotros” le voy a dar una buena puntuación porque la a tualizacion respecto al bluray es notoria juas
Primero: que esos comentarios se referirían a películas antiguas donde los creadores no tienen ni voz ni voto.
Eh, pero si es Dios!
Te lo agradezco, lo habian pedido el video algunos chavales y lo he intentado abordar con honestidad y respeto, pues hombre el procesador ese coreano ALPHA no tiene mala pinta para nada jajaja, a ver el precio.....un abrazoo ronda
No sé lo digas dos veces que la compra y ya tenemos el lío hecho para ver dónde la mete o a cual le da salida para colocar la Pana
Me falta me falta jajaj, pero esa DX900 con el Egreat5 me da muy muy buenos ratos en el dormitorio jajajaj, se porta bien la veterana!!!
